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All About Anxiety

Janet Lewis:                  Hello, and welcome to this week’s show. I’m Janet Lewis.

Dr. Lewis:                     And I’m Dr. Lewis.

Janet Lewis:                  We are Green Wisdom Health, home of your low-cost lab work and answers to why you may not be feeling good, here with another exciting show about anxiety, because I know anxiety is an exciting subject.

Dr. Lewis:                     There’s a difference between excitement and enjoyment, however.

Janet Lewis:                  There are so many people full of anxiety.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah, and full of other things.

Janet Lewis:                  It’s rampant, and there are people that have no clue what to do about it, how to get rid of it. “Why does it keep hanging around? Where does it come from?” It’s making me anxious thinking about it. So Dr. Lewis-

Dr. Lewis:                     Sometimes you have to blow the whistle and call the play dead, and start something different, which I just did recently.

Janet Lewis:                  And he’s here to tell you all about it, and why we are so full of anxiety, and what can we do about it? Because it does seem to be all over the place now.

Dr. Lewis:                     The reason we did this, I had another subject to do a podcast on, but we’ve had a lot of anxiety recently that was brought into the office, and I blew the whistle, called the play dead, and it’s like you don’t tolerate it. I call people like, they’re crazy-makers. No matter what you say, they go to the negative, and I tell them, “Read the book Negaholics. You’re negative. You never won’t read it,” but just quit it, and we’re gonna talk about it. It may be because of thyroid. It may be because of adrenals. It may be because of PMS. It may be because, “Oh, you’re just missing neurotransmitters.” Maybe because you’re toxic in your bowel. That could be a lot of different things, but one of the things I’ve seen is it’s how you choose, folks.

Dr. Lewis:                     It’s a choice. How you choose to think about things. If you think about what the worst case scenario is, it just gets worse and worse. If you think about what’s good, great, grand, and glorious, and can be healthy, happy, bright, lively, and prosperous, then anxiety goes away. To a large degree, it’s a choice. You just have to overcome all this other stuff.

Janet Lewis:                  I think a great book to read also is Joyce Meyer’s Battlefield of the Mind, because that really does help a lot with explaining where all of this comes from, and ways that you can get around, or thinking differently, learning to think differently, and speak differently, because that has a lot to do with it, too, right?

Dr. Lewis:                     Absolutely. I think that’s the most of it. I think it’s a choice. Maybe you say, “Well, everybody in my family’s that way.” Well, just because they did it doesn’t mean you have to do it. You can step outside the circle, and I live outside the circle, but you don’t have to think that. I’ve seen people that all the family was negative, negative, negative, and I’ve seen some people say, “I’m not gonna live this way.” They choose, again, a choice, to do something different. But we’re gonna tell you in our opinion, at least, how it’s kind of easier to break the cycle if you deal with the lack of neurotransmitters or lack of nutritious things that can calm the nerves and ease the bowels’ irritation.

Janet Lewis:                  I have found that it seems that people that have more anxiety disorder, it’s got a lot to do with what they eat, correct?

Dr. Lewis:                     That’s a big part of it.

Janet Lewis:                  Yeah. The food additives, food dyes.

Dr. Lewis:                     All that’s been proven in ADD, ADHD, so they’re agitated and anxious, even though it may not come out as anxiety. Yes, absolutely. Why do they put it in some of these stupid cheap vitamins? Why do they put it in your drugs? Do you care if it’s got a cancer-causing red lake dye? That’s crazy. Why are they doing that to you? You should ask your congressman that.

Janet Lewis:                  Well, that is the problem we run into here a lot with especially children’s multivitamins, and the chewable forms of the pills. People are used to going to a big box store and buying the gummy vitamins for their kids, because they taste good, and that’s a way that their kid will get them down, but if you read on the back of those labels, many of them have the dyes in it, like Dr. Lewis is talking about. They look great, they taste great, but there’s a reason why they do, and it’s because of those chemicals, and it’s very hard naturally to make something that tastes great without all the synthetic chemicals that go in it. I get you guys, coming from not having a kid that will swallow anything. We try to mix our stuff up in applesauce, or something like that that makes it sweeter. We have a children’s multi that tastes pretty good now. People are going, “Pretty good.” Well, again, it’s not got any kind of synthetic dyes or sweeteners or colorings to it, and I always tell people, “It tastes great at first, and then just chase it with something, and it’s fine.” But it’s called SuperNutes, and-

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah. It’s been pretty popular, too.

Janet Lewis:                  Yeah.

Dr. Lewis:                     It is what you eat because I just now thought of this. I had ice cream for supper last night, and I’m pretty agitated today, and I dealt with the anxiety, and I eat ice cream out of stress, and I won’t get into that, but I’d rather have ice cream than alcohol. It is what you eat, and it’s what you put in your body. Again, it’s a choice, and you’ve got to make a good choice. I won’t do it tonight, I promise.

Dr. Lewis:                     Some of the things that are missing, I’m gonna get into the different neurotransmitters. Usually, it’s calcium and magnesium. Now, you know I’m not a huge fan of just calcium by itself, but calcium, if it’s in a form that you can tolerate, is a natural tranquilizer. People say, “Well, I want this coral calcium.” Well, that’s calcium carbonate, and it’s not water soluble, or else the moisture shells would dissolve in the water. That is not a good form. It’s one of the most expensive farces they’ve ever put on you, and there are other better forms of calcium.

Dr. Lewis:                     Then you’ve got magnesium. Well, depends on what you need versus how many bowel movements per day you have. Sometimes you need iron. Some people have too much or too little. Most people do not have enough B12, even if they’ve got good digestion because it’s over-utilized trying to detoxify your body. If you’re taking any kind of drugs, over the counter or prescribed, you’re already nutrient deficient, or you wouldn’t have the problem most likely, and then you’re putting in drugs that are depleting the nutrients even more, so you really have to go way beyond the RDA. And B1. B1. Brain fog. It’s the candida in your gut that’s using that thiamine, and, oh, I get some incredible results with this lipid soluble B1. You can use SAMe. Janet loves it when I take it. She says that I’m a better person when I take it. She’s given it-

Janet Lewis:                  I don’t know what he’s talking about. He’s great all the time.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah, well. It’ll be set out tonight, I’m sure. B complex, B6, I prefer the activated form, P5P. Vitamin C, and vitamin C doesn’t get a lot of press anymore, because it’s an old vitamin. We knew about it 30, 40, 50 years ago. We like the liposomal, because I think it’s 92% to 94% absorbable, versus the 12% to 13% of the other vitamin Cs. Believe it or not, vitamin E can do it, although it helps oxygen utilization to the brain. And zinc, everybody’s zinc deficient. Man, I give a lot of zinc to people, but I think it’s best if you kind of buffer it with our Reacted MultiMin minerals. You don’t want to just do one unless it’s very super obvious.

Dr. Lewis:                     If you want, I’ll talk a little bit about panic attacks, anxiety disorders, and stress, and some of that’s how you choose to react to stress.

Janet Lewis:                  Yeah. Are panic attacks and anxiety issues the same thing, or are they different?

Dr. Lewis:                     I think they’re pretty close. It’s hard to differentiate between the two. Some people might argue that point a little bit. Everybody’s got an opinion, and sometimes they vary quite a bit. Many times it’s the neurotransmitters, and one thing you don’t hear a lot of is norepinephrine. That’s actually secreted by the brain itself, and it increases the level of wakefulness, and most people that are obese have very, very low norepinephrine. People say, “But I eat nuts, and then I still gain weight.” Well, you could have a neurotransmitter problem, and you kind of have to let us work on it and be patient, because we’re finding more people when we do their labs, cheap labs, you need to get it here, and we’re finding things, “Well, this and this and this probably relate to the inability of your hypothalamus and-or pituitary putting out the right signals.” I see more of the evidence of that every day, and the people that stick with it, of course, they get more and better results.

Dr. Lewis:                     You got dopamine. Well, let me be more specific, I guess. Norepinephrine deficiency. Usually, those are the people that feel hungry through the day. They have an insatiable appetite, they eat large meals, don’t know when to stop eating, never feel full or satisfied, can eat almost anything in sight, feel out of control, especially with their appetite, think about food all the time, and I have people says, “But I just dream about food.” If you’re craving the bread and pastas, the starches, rather than sweets, I’m more of the sweet craver, ADD, ADHD, hungry in the late afternoon, and it just goes on and on and on and on, so that’s norepinephrine.

Dr. Lewis:                     If it’s a serotonin deficiency, and that’s the one I think is most common, even though other sources say it’s the second most common, those are the people that crave sweets or starches in the afternoon and evening. That’s the people that go home under stress and eat Bluebell. Crave chocolate. Janet always teases that I’m the female in the relationship because I’m the one that’ll eat the chocolate. She will not, and I love it. “Is it irresistible?” Yeah. I don’t know. I’ve never tried to resist it. “Do you eat when you’re stressed, anxious, lonely, or depressed? Anger, because you’ve experienced something that’s distressing? That can be surgery, some kind of long-term trauma, the death of a loved one?” And the answer to that’s “yeah,” you probably have a serotonin deficiency.

Dr. Lewis:                     “Do you eat when you’re not hungry?” Maybe not so much, but, “When you binge on foods or eat massive quantities …” Yep, that’s true of ice cream. “Do you wake up in the middle of the night to eat?” No. That’s not what I’m doing in the middle of the night, but okay. “Are you depressed, irritable, frustrated, or moody?” Sometimes I get irritated. Men get what we could call PMS. Janet’s got a really funny look, like, “Yup, he’s really telling the truth.” It’s like, I’m very polite when everybody around me has this also. It’s not just me. “Do you have trouble falling asleep once you’re awake?” I hear that from so many people. We do have a time-released serotonin, or time-released 5-Htp to create serotonin.

Dr. Lewis:                     Dopamine. These people that have a low dopamine are really interesting. I love them. They’re usually the addicts. Sex addicts, gambling addicts, alcoholics, drug addicts. They usually crave the salty foods or fatty foods. They’d rather eat steak, and bologna, and bacon, or meat lover’s pizza, so to speak. If you feel depressed, then do you lack an interest in life? I hear that. They say, “Well, I just don’t care.” The opposite of love is not to hate. The opposite of love is, “I don’t care.” When people say they have no interest in life and they don’t care, you need to worry about them and see if you can help them. Difficult getting motivated. Well, I’m gonna skip talking about millennials that don’t want to drive for some strange reason. These are the ones that, as I said before, they’re addicted to alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, sex, gambling, or sometimes food. That kind of runs in families, too. Decreased sex drive, tired. Well, that could be any of them.

Dr. Lewis:                     The best thing to do is find somebody that you trust and follow their advice, and one of the biggest problems I’ve ever seen is people think they have to understand, and that gets you in trouble, and it’s like, I said this to Janet yesterday. “Well, jeez. I don’t understand how the transmission on my truck works. I don’t understand how the engine works, but I know when to push a button, it goes and put it in gear.” We don’t need to understand. We have to have a little faith, have a little trust. That’s why I tell you, find somebody you really trust, follow their directions. Use your discerning spirit. Your spirit will tell you if it’s good or bad, even if you’re in the middle of anxiety. That’s kind of the short course on that.

Janet Lewis:                  Well, I think we already talked about a few products that might help people if they have those things because I heard you mention a few things that could have related to me.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah, because she’s married to it today. I’ll be better … I’m already better. Never mind.

Janet Lewis:                  But there are actually products that we have that’ll help you through anxiety type issues. A couple of girls that are close to us have anxiety pretty bad, and one of them actually says now that her anxiety is almost completely gone, and it’s just been from taking some of the supplements, some of the right supplements, because she did the lab work, and she didn’t guess at what was wrong. Having a bad thyroid can create anxiety. We always tell people, “Do our comprehensive panel. It’s 12 different panels, the lab.” Having cortisol that’s too high can create anxiety. You just really don’t know where it’s coming from unless you run the lab. It could be from a toxic liver. It can be from a lack of iron, actually. You can actually be anemic and have anxious thoughts and think you have anxiety, which you do, but you may just need iron, but don’t guess.

Janet Lewis:                  We’re able to run lab all across the United States. It isn’t like you need to live here locally. Basically, you would fill out a health survey on GreenWisdomHealth.com, and from there, Dr. Lewis calls you and helps you figure out which lab panel is the right lab panel for you, and like I said, we have you draw it close to your home. All the results come back to us. We do everything via email and over the phone, and people that want to see what he looks like, we use Zoom video, so he can actually talk to you. There’s no need to feel that way because when you have anxiety, you don’t really know where to go, what to do. I know a young girl that just lost it in the middle of Target, and just sat her stuff all down, all of her [inaudible 00:16:03], and just started bawling, because she was so filled with anxiety. There’s no need to live like that. There’s actually answers for it. If you could get on some products, and get the right lab, and know what’s wrong with you, you can start feeling better.

Janet Lewis:                  Some of the basic products that you can use that you don’t even need a lab for, which we’re pretty excited about now, we have a Hemp Oil Plus, is what it’s called. You’re going, “Oh my god. Y’all are selling illegal drugs down there.” Well, no. This one’s actually not. This one’s from the stalk of … It’s from the purest hemp stock oil possible. It’s certified organic, and it’s legal in all 50 states.

Dr. Lewis:                     It being organic means you’re not getting the pesticides that can cause a lot of the problems in the first place.

Janet Lewis:                  Literally, we’ve been waiting for a company that would bring us something that we knew we could trust to sell. There have been so many people that have said, “Hey, why don’t you carry hemp oil in your clinic or CBD oil.” I’m like, “No. Not until I get it from the source that I know-”

Dr. Lewis:                     I’ve tried five different companies, and this is … I’ve only seen two that work.

Janet Lewis:                  Right.

Dr. Lewis:                     There’s a lot of fake companies.

Janet Lewis:                  We’ve waited, and it was literally on back order for like six months, and it just came back in again, and it’s from a reputable company that we trust called Thorne. You guys that have shopped with us now know some of the products from Thorne that we carry, like their Pepti-Guard and Choleast and things like that. Their new one now is called Hemp Oil Plus, and as I said, it is all organic, and it’s coming from the stalk, which is not common for them to make it from. The thing with that is, if you’re going, “Well, is it gonna cause me to fail a drug test?” Well, because of where it’s coming from, the answer to that is a very low, “No, it should not do that.” Because you’re getting minimal-

Dr. Lewis:                     You’re not getting any THC.

Janet Lewis:                  Correct. There’s nothing that should show up on a drug test, but what it does do is it helps a whole lot with regulating the body’s response to stress and fear. It actually helps with GI distress, which is a lot of where anxiety comes from, and physical discomfort. People that are in pain, and have a hard time moving around, it really does help with that as well. Then they have also put some other ingredients in it as well to help the hemp work better, like clove extract is in it, black pepper, hops, and rosemary. That’s the “plus” side of it. It’s called Hemp Oil Plus. As I said, we’re really excited to finally have a product that we can back and sell to people, knowing we feel good about that.

Janet Lewis:                  Other things that are great for anxiety. GABA, which you’ve probably heard of. We have one here that is great for kids, and it tastes great.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah. It actually does.

Janet Lewis:                  It’s called Pharma GABA, and it’s P-H-A-R-M-A, and they can suck on it, and it actually helps with ADD, ADHD, anxiety type things.

Dr. Lewis:                     We have a lot of kids on it with good reports coming back from their parents and teachers.

Janet Lewis:                  Or people that can’t swallow well, they like the ones they can suck on. For adults, we kind of tell them, “Just go with the straight GABA,” because it’s-

Dr. Lewis:                     It’s stronger.

Janet Lewis:                  Yeah. It’s stronger. Then Dr. Lewis’ personal favorite that he puts all kind of people on is something that’s called Neurolink. Why do you like that one?

Dr. Lewis:                     Well, because it has that activated B6 that I talked about, the P5P, and it has tyrosine, which is really, really good for helping your body, your brain make neurotransmitters, but it also helps with the thyroid, because sometimes if your thyroid is not functioning correctly, it can cause anxiety and panic attacks. Then it has the GABA, which is a pretty big amount, then glutamine, which your brain actually puts out glutamate. That’s one of the things the body uses and uses a lot of glycines too, amino acids. It has inositol, taurine. Taurine’s really good for the brain, but it also helps your body detox fine. It’s really good for brain fog, too. Then it has 5-HTP. It’s really good. It says six capsules a day, and I only know two people that have to take six. Most people take three with really, really good results. It’s a bottle full of … It’s got 180 in it, so it could last a long time.

Dr. Lewis:                     I’ve never taken it, but Janet will give me the 5-HTP. Once in a while, I’ll take GABA, and the hemp oil does work really well, and I take it because of my irritated, agitated GI tract, because I have some diverticulitis, and it does help calm down the GI tract. The reason why that’s important is that 95% of your serotonin is in your GI tract. It’s not really in your brain. You have to have good gut health, and stop all that dysfunction. That’s what the P5P activated B6 is for, so it’ll cross the blood-brain barrier. We’re careful to give you the nutrients that really will work and help your body work without having to expend more energy to change the forms.

Janet Lewis:                  Right. Your job is just to take it and let everybody else tell you how much more wonderful you are when you’re on it.

Dr. Lewis:                     And smile.

Janet Lewis:                  Because we hear that a whole lot. Other things that have got to do with anxiety, or having bad anxiety is a lack of magnesium, believe it or not. I always tell people, because they always go, “Well, your stuff’s so expensive.” Well, it’s not expensive. It’s different than what they’ve experienced in a store because our stuff is stronger.

Dr. Lewis:                     We’ve been to places that people think are the bastions of organic, and they’re not, and we see their vitamins, and it’s like, our stuff usually is actually less expensive, but if you compare milligrams to milligrams, ours is way less expensive. It’s just high-quality, so don’t let your perception be fooled.

Janet Lewis:                  Exactly. Magnesium is one of the least expensive things you can do. I think a bottle of it here is like $17 or something.

Dr. Lewis:                     And that’s the good, absorbable type. It’s not magnesium oxide, which most people try to sell you.

Janet Lewis:                  It is not the stuff that gives you diarrhea. It’s reacted magnesium. It has different forms of it, so you can take as much as you need. Magnesium actually does over 300 functions in the body, so if you’re gonna just get one thing, you really need to add in magnesium. Vitamin D being low actually creates anxiety. Did you know that? Dr. Lewis knows everything, so I’m sure you do.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah. Well, I did a couple of podcasts yesterday as a guest, and one of them says, “Well, I’m taking 1,000 IUs of Vitamin D a day.” I said, “Well, that’s a really good thing, but it takes 8,000 for the average person to get it up where it should be.” Then I said on a previous podcast that 1,000 units a day will normally lower your chance of flu 70%. 2,000 units a day will normally lower your chances of flu close to 100%. That’s just 2,000 IUs. Then we’ve got a question we’ll get to in a minute. I was on another podcast about Lyme’s disease, so we’ll get to that.

Janet Lewis:                  But low vitamin D levels also can trigger the seasonal affective disorder.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah. One of those guys says, “Well, isn’t it just natural? Your natural depression?” I said, “I don’t think depression is natural, but you can accept that.” Again, he’s speaking it into existence, so it’s true for him, but no, depression and-or anxiety, they’re not natural.

Janet Lewis:                  That’s linked to the sunshine deficiency, which does depress you, so take more vitamin D. Also, omega-3 fats, like the fish oils, which we always use Orthomega because of the high EPA and DHA in it, which is what you need to improve your emotional health.

Dr. Lewis:                     And the high absorbability.

Janet Lewis:                  A study proved that medical students who took omega-3s lowered their anxiety by 20%, so see there, it’s not all in your head. There are things you can do to help the gut. Yes, Dr. Lewis wants to make sure that we answer this question because we have people on our Shooting Straight With Dr. Lewis. If you’re not familiar with that group, it’s on Facebook.

Dr. Lewis:                     Sign up with Shoot Straight.

Janet Lewis:                  It is a closed group, but you can ask to be a member, and you can learn all kind of information here. Today’s question comes from Kay, and she wants to know about migratory pain and inflammation from Lyme.

Dr. Lewis:                     Again, I was a guest on a podcast about Lyme’s disease. He said it’s gonna air somewhere around Thanksgiving. I’m a guest on a lot of podcasts. I don’t really know why, but I think we’re doing three or four this week as a guest. I guess there’s a reason for that. Lyme’s disease, you have to go on a low-allergen diet, and there’s a lot of different things you can be allergic to. We do have some weird tests that will determine that. We have weird tests that will determine your neurotransmitter deficiencies, too.

Dr. Lewis:                     You can go on a stealth pathogen protocol, so we can make them little things come out and hit them hard, and then quit doing it, and then they’ll come back out. You can do a purification program. You have to do a leaky gut protocol so that your body will stop absorbing some of the toxins associated with Lyme’s disease and all the weird little [inaudible 00:26:05] that cause that. You kind of have to add joint and cognitive nutrients also, and you pretty much have to go on a lifetime of immune system support for maintenance. We can do that. It’s just absolutely imperative, or it’s quicker, easier, less expensive just to do the lab rather than guess.

Janet Lewis:                  The big one for Lyme that we have really had a lot of success with is Lauricidin.

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah. That guy knew about Lauricidin, and I told him we can do colloidal silver, and he thought I was crazy because I don’t like using colloidal silver unless there’s a last resort. We use a lot of olive leaf, and berberine, and Pau D’Arco , and artemisia, black walnut, and on and on and on, but there are some things that will definitely help.

Dr. Lewis:                     As far as the migratory pain syndrome, it may be from the toxins from the Lyme disease. It very well could be, but as a chiropractor, when people come in, they say, “Well, I have this parasthesia here and here and here,” and it’s like, “Okay, well that does not correlate with the structure-function aspect of chiropractic.” That’s when I would hit them with the right amount, hopefully, in most cases the right amount of the right supplements.

Dr. Lewis:                     One of the things and this is just, you can look this research up, there are so many toxins that you have to deal with, and dealing with it means you have to take the supplemental things that will help your body. For example, just benzene. Now, benzene is known to cause leukemia, and our exposure to it is not just the carpets, and it gases out of the carpets like crazy, but you get a big dose of benzene every time you fuel your car up, and then you got styrene that comes out of the carpet, but how many of you are drinking out of styrofoam cups? And how many of you microwave something in a styrofoam food tray? You’re asking for cancer, but it’s been proven over and over and over again it’ll cause neurotoxic symptoms, and that goes into the migratory pain that you’re asking about, which is numbness and tingling, loss of sensation. Very bizarre pain syndromes. Brain fog, encephalopathy, mood swings, and memory loss.

Dr. Lewis:                     That’s why it takes time for us to do our job because it takes your body time to detoxify this stuff, and it can be paralysis, convulsions, tremors, blurred visions. I’ve seen people that had Parkinson’s symptoms. Their tremors would get better and better and better, especially the guys that went through Vietnam and were exposed to Agent Orange. You want to consider that it may be the toxins from the Lyme’s disease, or it can be toxins that were already there, and now you’re overly burdened. Just to prove the point, carpet workers, for example, have increased rates of cancers, and especially leukemias. That research is by Anderson, so you can Google that and look it up.

Janet Lewis:                  So do those people that spray for pests. You know, when they come around and do-

Dr. Lewis:                     Yeah.

Janet Lewis:                  Those people are always sick, and they have some sort of leukemia or cancers also.

Dr. Lewis:                     Or early-onset dementia. We see that a lot.

Janet Lewis:                  Oh, yeah. Yeah, because of all the chemicals that are in them.

Dr. Lewis:                     It’s not like everybody doesn’t get exposed to those things, but people that are more exposed to it, for example, welders, they get a lot of manganese, and in the wrong form. Nail techs and hairdressers are people that are exposed to chemicals more than the average person, and you know, just hair dye is known to cause bladder cancer.

Janet Lewis:                  None of us women use hair dye, so I don’t think that’s an issue for any of us.

Dr. Lewis:                     No, Janet never has.

Janet Lewis:                  No.

Dr. Lewis:                     God’s gonna get me for lying.

Janet Lewis:                  Looks like we’ve come to the end of our show. He’s getting personal now, so hopefully, we have helped your anxiety lessen a little bit with this show, and given you hope to have a healthy, happy, prosperous life since that’s what we’re all here for. We appreciate you joining us, and we’ll be back next week with another fascinating show. Have a blessed week.

 

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Doom, Gloom and Despair

 

Janet Lewis:                 Hello and welcome to this week’s show. I am Janet Lewis.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And I’m Dr. Lewis.

Janet Lewis:                 And we are Green Wisdom Health, home of your low-cost lab work, and pharmaceutical-grade supplements, vitamins and herbs to help you have a life worth living.

Janet Lewis:                 And speaking of a life worth living, many of you out there suffer from depression, anxiety, a feeling of gloom, despair. So today’s show is all about doom, gloom, and despair, and where it comes from, if there’s help, is it out of your head, what do you do, and we’re here to open the door of hope for you.

Janet Lewis:                 So today Dr. Lewis is going to educate us a little bit about what can be done to make you feel good again.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Janet says it comes from here or there. I thought it came from hee-haw, doom, gloom, and misery on me. Something like that.

Janet Lewis:                 You’re dating yourself.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, I’m not that bad a date, I’ll tell you that.

Dr.  Lewis:                    The thing about it is if you have this doom, gloom, and depression, you know, sometimes you need the psychotropic drugs, but they have a lot of side effects. I mentioned the other day that there was this lady, whose doctor says, “Well, you can do the natural stuff, or you can do my stuff.” But he says, “If you do the natural stuff, I’m not going to get involved.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, the lady, believe it or not, I’m dealing with her now, and she decided to follow some of my instructions. There’s the key. You can’t do anything half way, and I’m trying to be polite here, but I told her to get off wheat, which she did, and there’s plenty of research that says, you know, many people have wheat sensitivity or allergy.

Dr.  Lewis:                    I’ve talked about how wheat can actually cause schizophrenia, just because it irritates the GI tract, which lets you know that all this misery, brain fog, anxiety, and depression can come out of your GI tract, and it’s almost always part of the equation, if not always, and that research on the schizophrenia came from a journal of biological psychiatry. So you know, we’re talking about well-researched, well-respected entities.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And I’m glad to have that lady back, and you know, trying to whip her depression. You know, you hear me talk about the toxic world. And it’s real, and a lot of people don’t really believe me because they don’t necessarily see it, and that’s why I’m real bad, or real good about quoting research.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Mercury lowers, glutathione in, you know, there’s some companies pushing, saying, “”Oh, you know, this creates glutathione. It will make you young, rich, and good-looking.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, there’s a lot of supplements that do that, but you have to have the glutathione, that mercury, kind of, sideswipes and it helps you make neurotransmitters in your brain, and in your GI tract, and that’s very important to know.

Dr.  Lewis:                    MSG, people that love MSG because it’s neuro-excitatory. Well, the book I think that people should read about the MSG is called ‘The Dorito Effect’. The lady that cuts my hair said she didn’t want to read it. She wanted me to read it and give her the Cliff Notes.

Dr.  Lewis:                    So I did. MSG, we’ve known since the 1970s is absolutely horrible for your brain, and that alone can be the major contributing fact to stress, anxiety, and depression, but there’s probably many other factors, and that’s why you need help, and if you’re depressed you need to get the help of your spouse, your best friend, your preacher, a counselor, psychologist, psychiatrist, you need help, and that’s the point because usually when you get to that point, you need help.

Dr.  Lewis:                    PCB, pesticides effect the uptake of neurotransmitters. Dopamine serotonin, and glutamate, and GABA. That’s from the Journal of Toxicology. So you know, all this has been around for decades and decades and decades. We have the knowledge. So the point is why are we not treating it?

Dr.  Lewis:                    You want me to just ramble, Janet? I can sure do that.

Janet Lewis:                 Just ramble. Well, you know, my question is, you know, we always talk about doing low-cost lab work. Is that something you can see, depression in someone’s lab panel?

Dr.  Lewis:                    No. You can suspect it by what the GI tract’s doing. You can suspect it because the thyroid’s usually not right. You can suspect it, because you have high basophils or eosinophils, you know, you have a GI problem, and most likely a yeast overgrowth. You can suspect a lot of things, and we don’t want to be in the normal reference range ’cause these normal reference ranges aren’t normal. They cover all the weird people.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Anyway, Janet tells me to be more polite about that, but it covers a sick America. You want to be in optimal range, and that’s usually the top of the bell curve in the middle 30 or 40%. Some things, however, need to be either high or low, depending on what it is, and I always explain that and needs to be that way for optimal health.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And yeah, the labs do give you, you know, a lot of hope of me figuring it out, but again, you know, I had a wonderful couple in here yesterday, and the husband loved his wife enough to come in with her, and people that do this together, usually have a much, much better outcome because sometimes you have to hold her hand, while they’re not strong enough to help themselves.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And you know, people say … Oh I had a patient here while back say, “Oh, do you believe in fibromyalgia?” I said, “Well, of course.” And she was just like a … Oh, a relief on her face, and her husband said, “We’ve been to about seven different doctors. They said that was not a reasonable diagnosis.” And I said, “Well, it’s just kind of a general thing, fibromyalgia. It could be, you know, lack of magnesium.” You know, lack of magnesium can very well contribute to depression, anxiety, stress, et cetera, but it can contribute to fibromyalgia. It can be just a low functioning thyroid.

Dr.  Lewis:                    But the doctor says, “Well, it’s in range.” I said, “Well, it’s not in optimal range.” So it’s not easy to figure out and that’s why you need help, whether it’s from your spouse, or a best friend, or a counselor, or you know, some sort of doctor to hold your hand, and be strong, while you’re weak and getting well, and we’ve all needed that, including me.

Dr.  Lewis:                    So I’m just going to ramble on a while on depression. I actually asked Janet several times in the last few months, year or two, if she thought I was depressed, and she says, “No, I don’t think so. Why?” I said, “Well, I’ve lost interest in guns, and I’m kind of a gun nut.” And she said, “Well, the problem is you have so many it’s hard to get excited about it.” And I said, “Maybe that’s true.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    You know, I quit shooting deer many, many, many years ago. I sat and watched one, real pretty, but … And one of the signs of depression can be if you lose interest in the things you used to be interested in, but it’s not necessarily true, and that’s why I asked Janet because I needed something, a more objective opinion.

Dr.  Lewis:                    One of the things that can help contribute to depression is nutrient deficiencies. I think that everybody’s nutrient deficient because you cannot get enough out of your food, even if you eat totally organic, and I treat a lot of organic farmers. I know this is true, and I read the research.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And primal, paleo, ketos, the most popular diet right now, and I personally think they’re correct. Limiting the carbohydrates, but I’ll talk about rice for a little bit. Not that brown rice is necessarily good for you because the excess carbohydrates, but when you form the brown rice into white rice, you grind it, you bleach it. There’s all kinds of other processes. You lose about 80% of the trace minerals that’s not enough in the brown rice, but you’re losing 80% of what’s in there to make white rice, and these minerals are like magnesium, which I just talked about, manganese, which has a lot to do with blood sugar, and other things. Copper and zinc, and zinc is one of the common things that’s low in depression.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And if it goes low and stays low, then your immune system begins to take a hit, and we kind of take a … We can kind of make a good educated guess, if your alkaline and phosphatase is low that you need more zinc. You know, that happens with white flour. We’ve talked about that a lot. They used to, about 100 years ago, fortify with iodine. Now, they fortify with bromine, which is one of the nastiest things you can do to wreck your thyroid, but even over 100 years ago in a book that I have, it talked about how flour is absolutely devastating to people that are diabetics. Now, the medical book said that over 100 years ago, but then we still don’t practice it. So folks, I know you enjoy what you learn here, and thank you very much for sharing because there’s a lot of sharing going on. I get a lot of referrals, and Jonathon says I’m going to have to give him money for mentioning his name, but it’s not what you know, it’s what you do.

Dr.  Lewis:                    You know, faith without works is dead. So faith is a wonderful thing you have to have it. But, you have to have the works or the actions step. So, there’s a lot of vitamins and minerals that is very necessary just for your body to function correctly. Then it can generally fix a lot of the depression. The toxins I talk about. On our health survey many, many, many … it’s extremely common for these people to say I have brain fog. One of the things we’re going to talk about when we get to the supplements is thiamin.

Dr.  Lewis:                    If you have an overcolonization of yeast, they interfere with your uptake of thiamin. If you don’t have enough thiamin, that’s B1, it causes the gut to be more leaky. You’ve heard of leaky gut. What it also causes your brain to become leaky. It allows the toxins in the environment to cross the blood-brain barrier. I don’t normally put people on thiamin. I put them on Benfotiamine, which is the best form of thiamin. And the large majority of the people that said they had brain fog, say later that it went away and their thinking was crystal clear now.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And that helps to get rid of some of the toxins. These toxins come from, your furnishings, building construction, cosmetics, traffic exhaust, pesticides, office supplies. Janet and I just got an RV. I know we talked about this before, but it bears repeating, … and it came out of Canada. Guess what? They don’t allow formaldehyde and you don’t walk in and feel bad or get toxic or your eyes burning. We went into some other RV’s the other day and holy, geez, my eyes were watering and sniffing and snorting and snotting, just from walking in that RV, apparently built in America.

Dr.  Lewis:                    So, folks talk, make a vote with your money. We bought this one out of Canada. And it’s way, way, better. Even though, they only let 60 in America per year. Aluminum and cadmium, if you smoke, you’re just getting a huge dose of cadmium. Then you’re exhaling that and killing everybody in the room with you. So, you probably ought to quit it. Any man that has benign prostatic hypertrophy or swollen prostate, it’s usually full of yeast and/or cadmium. You have to do a lot of magnesium and zinc to help replace that. That comes a lot of times from a poor diet, junk foods. That helps you become even more deficient.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Other things that it can be. Well, chromium. Chromium, if you have a blood sugar handling problem, which feeds yeast, which messes with your GI tract. And most of us do have a chromium deficiency. Because that’s usually for us people that have sugar handling problems. I’m saying, us people, ’cause I have that challenge more so than Janet. When you have the chromium deficiency, it doesn’t just contribute to the hypoglycemia/headed toward metabolic syndrome, or diabetes. It also contributes to mood swings and depression.

Dr.  Lewis:                    High cholesterol can be a chromium deficiency too. People that get cholesterol and they go on statin drugs. And if they stay on statin drugs, they usually get depressed, because the cholesterol gets so low, you don’t really repair your brain, because there’s not enough cholesterol there to do it. I guess, Janet we should do a show on cholesterol some day, you think?

Janet Lewis:                 Oh, yeah, because that leads to depression a whole, lot. There are symptoms and signs, I guess, that people … they may not even realize they’re depressed.

Dr.  Lewis:                    That’s why I ask. Always ask for help, folks.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. And there’s some common things. If you feel, down, empty and numb, that’s a sign that you might be depressed. If you harbor a feeling of guilt or worthlessness, you’re always upset or tearful.

Dr.  Lewis:                    The poor self esteem people that always say “I’m sorry, I’m sorry, I’m sorry”.

Janet Lewis:                 Right. It’s really hard on the other people that always try to bring them up, too. There are some natural products that you can take that help with that. Our favorite one is probably 5-HTP, because it’s the peace of God in a bottle. And it’s the hundred milligram 5-HTP.

Dr.  Lewis:                    But, then people say, “But, I tried it, it didn’t work.”

Janet Lewis:                 Right.

Dr.  Lewis:                    I say “Try mine”. They say “Holy cow, this works.” I’d say “Where did you get your other one?” It’s usually the big box store. Folks supplements are different, just like your wonderful wife you have now, versus your crazy ex. Supplements are all created differently. Although the FDA does check those things, but, they can’t keep up with everything.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. Then there’s other things, with obviously thinking about suicide, or death may mean you’re a little bit depressed.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Then, if you’re thinking about suicide or death, or harming someone, then you run to the emergency room.

Janet Lewis:                 Exactly.

Dr.  Lewis:                    That’s when drugs are great.

Janet Lewis:                 Right. Unable to relate to other people.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Ha, ha. Can I say something about that?

Janet Lewis:                 Sure.

Dr.  Lewis:                    What’s wrong in America today? We got a whole lot of one type of person that’s really angry about the other type of person. The sign of good mental health is how many different types of people that you can get along with. I’ve got friends that are murderers, mountain men, millionaires, and everybody in between. We tease on Facebook, the people that have a political view directly opposed to mine. But, we still like each other at the end of the day. If you can’t stand people, because they’re a little bit different than you, you’re the one that has the mental problem. You need to love people for our sameness, not hate them for our differences. Woops. Did I say too much?

Janet Lewis:                 No. That’s great. A feeling of hopelessness and helplessness. Feeling a sense of unreality. You’re restless, agitated or irritable.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Woops.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. That can be your liver though, sometimes, too, which is something we can see on lab.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah. Very much so.

Janet Lewis:                 If you’re a mean drunk, you can see that on lab, because their liver enzymes will be higher.

Dr.  Lewis:                    If you’re a drunk, you’ve got a problem.

Janet Lewis:                 Like I said, it’s true. That’s numbing yourself, isn’t it.?

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah, escape reality. Reality is what you make it. It’s in your mind, in your attitude, in your spirit. You can control … your minds full and you can control what goes in it.

Janet Lewis:                 And you may actually have some other issues that are a sign of depression. They’re physical symptoms like avoiding social events or other activities that were once enjoyable.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, I was going say it would be me, ’cause I’m not a social animal, but they never were enjoyable. I’d rather go fishing, sit on the bank.

Janet Lewis:                 Well, I don’t think that’s a depression thing. I think that’s a personality thing. If you once were social and then you don’t want to be anymore.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah.

Janet Lewis:                 Sleeping too much, or getting no sleep at all. That’s interesting.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, yeah.

Janet Lewis:                 That’s cortisol, also. And can be seen on lab.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah. You know a lot of people say “Well, I can’t sleep”. And their cortisol’s at 26. I say “Well, it ought to be about a 12, 15, something like that. You’re running 120 miles an hour on I-20 when it’s raining.” And I-20’s famous for having massive amount of wrecks every time it rains a little bit, something’s wrong with the road. Yeah, cortisol’s incredibly important.

Janet Lewis:                 And all these tests we’re talking about are available on our comprehensive panel. I have it in our show notes. I linked to it. It’s actually 12 different panels and we’ve talked about two of them just now for the depression.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Right.

Janet Lewis:                 Thyroid can actually make you depressed, as well, if its not right. So, there are some markers on lab that you need to make sure are optimal.

Dr.  Lewis:                    If your thyroid ain’t right, it makes your spouse depressed, too. Get it checked and get it fixed.

Janet Lewis:                 Right. If you’re constipated,-

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yep-

Janet Lewis:                 … can be a sign of depression.

Dr.  Lewis:                    … because you’re holding in. There are some psychological and spiritual things that go with physical symptoms. People that are constantly constipated can’t let go. Think about that. People that have type A behavior have more heart attacks. People that harbor anger and fear have higher incidences of cancer. And yes, that’s real. There’s research to back it up. Not an opinion.

Janet Lewis:                 Difficulty speaking or thinking clear … I did not have trouble speaking that. I purposely did that.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah. She’s full of BS. Belief systems.

Janet Lewis:                 Changes in your menstrual cycle.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Go ahead Janet, it says I have PMS quite often, actually.

Janet Lewis:                 It is depressing for a woman to go through mid-life crisis and they don’t have a menstrual cycle anymore.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah.

Janet Lewis:                 That parts happy.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Man just behind your vehicle when we have a mid-life crisis.

Janet Lewis:                 So, changes of that can make you depressed. I understand. Experiencing aches and pains without any physical symptoms.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah, that goes back to the fibromyalgia stuff too, very, very much.

Janet Lewis:                 Losing interest in sexual intercourse, is actually a sign of depression.

Dr.  Lewis:                    I hear that a lot too. And it’s sad, when somebody in their 20s, 30s, and 40s say “I really have problems and I don’t really care.” It’s like “Okay. So, belly up to the bar. Go beyond the comprehensive and add your hormones, that will help.”

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. They need lab. Turning to recreational drugs tobacco use, or alcohol abuse.

Dr.  Lewis:                    My favorite drug is caffeine.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah.

Dr.  Lewis:                    That’s a drug.

Janet Lewis:                 Eating excessively, which leads to the weight gain or no appetite leading to weight loss. You just have to know that depression can come on gradually. So, some people may not immediately notice that something is wrong.

Dr.  Lewis:                    It may be something as simple as you have a 5-MTHF genetic SNP and that’s real common. Some of the so-called experts say there’s 50% of us that have that. That’s why in our formulas, we don’t have folic acid, we have 5-MTHF Quaterefolic. That’s the one that can get in if you have that genetic SNP. Janet can tell when I don’t take my dose of it, because I have one of the four possible genetic SNPs there. And she can tell you the day I don’t take it. 5-MTHF and we got you covered, when you’re getting supplements from us.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah, even if you just get the B12 and it contains MTHF.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah.

Janet Lewis:                 It actually will be a life changer to … it will be like no B12 you’ve ever taken before. If you’ve tried B12 in the past and it’s like “Yeah, sort of, kind of”. This one here is like “Yeah. You know when you’ve missed it, because of that MTHF that’s in it.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah, and that goes with the zinc deficiency. Result is impaired membrane. Transport and impaired transport of B12, which can go to “Oh, you have low stomach acid.” That by itself can cause depression. So, you see it can be caused by so many different things. You need to find somebody with an objective opinion.

Janet Lewis:                 We do have a few questions here this week that I wan to make sure we acknowledge. One of them, the first one came from our employee here. I told her that I’m going to talk about this on the Podcast. I said, “I won’t mention your name.” She goes “Oh, no, it’s fine.” She goes “I’m going to be famous. Go ahead.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    Okay.

Janet Lewis:                 I said “It’s not going to be in a positive light.”.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Okay. Kendell, here you go.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. Kendell, who we love. She’s our new little energetic employee that works down here. Young little mind and she’s just awesome. She came in and did lab here. That’s kind of how we found her, to have her start working here. I told her “She had a little bit of a blood sugar problem.” She’s like “Well, I watch everything I eat.” And for her age, for where she is, she’s doing fantastic. She does better than half the people I know. She eats gluten free, the whole bit, you know, Natural Grocers is her favorite grocery store. It’s where she shops. She came bee-bopping in here yesterday with a drink she had gotten at the health food store. And she wanted Dr. Lewis to look at it, because she said “I am so proud of this”. She said “It is just full of all kinds of fruit.” She said, “There are no added sugars in here, or any kind of chemicals.” We looked at it. The grams of sugar that it had in it, were off the chart.

New Speaker:               51 grams of sugar or something crazy.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah. It was something horribly high.

Dr.  Lewis:                    You know me, I’m so polite, I told her “You’d be better off drinking a beer.”

Janet Lewis:                 She said “But, everything in here is organic. It’s all organic fruit.”

Dr.  Lewis:                    So, is uranium, arsenic and cyanide, go right ahead, honey.

Janet Lewis:                 So, I wanted you to talk to the people out there that are trying to do the right things and they’re having these fruit type juices and they’re eating correctly, but they’re drinking this other stuff. Is that still going to spike your sugar.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Well, yeah, God put it in the fruit, with fiber. And fruits a lot more sweet than it used to be, because it’s been hybridized and genetically modified. You should only eat fruit if it’s in season. Yeah, I don’t totally follow that. When you eat it, you need to eat it with the fiber. If you’re going to juice it, fine. Throw the fiber back in the juice and drink it.

Janet Lewis:                 Because the fiber has to be in it, right? To slow down the-

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah, it stops or slows the glucose spike. Then the fibers, everybody’s they get on this one thing. And they say “Prebiotic, prebiotic, prebiotic.” I say “Well, geez, if you just eat the fiber, that will give your good bacteria something to munch on. When you’re just doing a fruit juice, you’re feeding your yeast. So, cut it out. People, literally, they’re drinking red wine for resveratrol, which the sulfites kill. I say “Yeah, well, I drink screwdrivers for my vitamin C, too” and they look at me funny. I said, “It makes just as much sense.” I’m not a big fan of fruit juice. I guess you can tell.

Janet Lewis:                 I think people correlate the with ‘yeah, I get it out of a can.’ If it’s out of a can, it’s not good. But, there are people that actually believe that if they get it out of the health food store, that it’s got to be good for you, because it says it’s organic. You can still have a blood sugar problem with just drinking your way into it. So, watch your juice. And actually I put her on reactive chromium. I said, if I can get you on chromium, it will stop this craving that you’ve got for sugar, because at about 11:30, she will literally run out of here, to go get something to eat, because she’s crashing, because that sugar has gone up and then it’s beginning to dip down. It’s lunch time, and she’s not eating, and she’s got to eat something fast. If you can stabilize that sugar and stop it from spiking, it helps depression and it helps you-

Dr.  Lewis:                    Quit feeding the yeast, which contributes-

Janet Lewis:                 Yes.

Dr.  Lewis:                    … to her anxiety. Oh, I’m not talking about her.

Janet Lewis:                 No.

Dr.  Lewis:                    It contributes to anxiety.

Janet Lewis:                 Then we have Maggie that is-

Dr.  Lewis:                    She’s a sweetheart. Love talking to her.

Janet Lewis:                 She’s wanting to know, because we have a product called Thyrotain, that is for thyroid primarily. But, it does have a hundred milligrams of tumeric in it. She’s wanting to know if that’s enough tumeric to take, or is it best to add in additional tumeric.

Dr.  Lewis:                    I think more is better.

Janet Lewis:                 Tumeric is what? A big-

Dr.  Lewis:                    Super duper anti-oxidant.

Janet Lewis:                 Okay.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Then there’s some controversy about “Well, you should do the tumeric with black pepper, because it opens up your blood vessels and gets more tumeric in. I don’t think that’s true. We’ve seen research that says if you do the black pepper with the tumeric, it actually helps you create an allergy to both, and you end up not absorbing both. You can read research that says anything and everything … personally I prefer it without the black pepper, because of the research I’ve read.

Janet Lewis:                 Okay. Then Wendy wants to know what are the normal ranges for ferritin. And ferritin is your iron, your stored iron, not your regular iron.

Dr.  Lewis:                    I think on a woman, 30 to 70, I think. 50 is a little more ideal. I think 30 is a little bit towards the low side. On a man, you can go 50, 75, 100. Most men have a lot more, because we don’t have a menstrual cycle, we just have PMS, but we don’t bleed to get rid of some of that blood. You have to. … some people store it, too much. Those people need to drink a lot of tea, quit eating out of cast iron pan. I’m a big fan of cast iron, but you kind of have to watch it, ’cause it can get too thick, also. 30 to 70. 100, 150 on a man’s okay.

Janet Lewis:                 That’s why we run ferritin, because there’s a lot of people, many, most, all come in here with a CBC that’s got their hemoglobin, hematocrit and they’re like “Oh, no. I don’t have an iron problem. I feel like I had an iron problem, but the doctor told me I did not”. We have seen many times that those ranges on the CBC, they’ll actually look great. The person’s lab looks great.

Dr.  Lewis:                    Yeah.

Janet Lewis:                 Then we run that ferritin, the stored iron, they’re actually anemic, because they don’t have it in the cell. They’ve got it out in the blood stream, but not in the cell. Then the other part, like Dr. Lewis said, or they can be high as well, then they’re rusting out like a gate hinge, because they can’t process all of the extra iron.

Dr.  Lewis:                    It is an oxidizer.

Janet Lewis:                 So, make sure that you’re always having ferritin run in addition to the regular blood panel, so you know exactly what your iron is doing. Then we also want to … it’s not a question. But, we just really loved it and thought we’d mention it. Cricket wanted to say thank you for giving-

Dr.  Lewis:                    From Illinois.

Janet Lewis:                 Yeah, from Illinois. For giving her the tools to live a better life. She was so sick when she heard our show on Jack Spirko’s Podcast three years ago. Can’t believe we’ve been doing it this long. And had been sick for many years before that. And it is wonderful to feel great again. So, thank you.

Dr.  Lewis:                    But, you know what made Cricket well? She did it.

Janet Lewis:                 Consistent.

Dr.  Lewis:                    And she did it. And she did it. And, her husband is just as much fun to deal with. I’d like to do a quick thank you, cause there are so many people share “I got a great referral” Miss Trisha. She was referred by Rob in Point Orion, Michigan. He’s been doing our stuff forever and a day. He never calls me. He should. Call me Rob. He’s been super consistent. Then you got Brian down in College Grove, Tennessee wonderful guy. Gary in Amarillo, golly. He’s incredible. You got people like Shanna in Tucson, her husband Rafael. Then you have Imani down in Baton Rouge. Folks we can do this in most all different places and the people like, the one’s I mentioned that are just consistent, consistent, consistent, get what? Consistent results. You got to put it into your body for it to create good things. It creates dividends in your health.

Janet Lewis:                 So get started today. There’s no reason to be depressed, gloomy. Go to our website GreenWisdomHealth.com. Fill out the health survey. It will recommend the lab panel that you need. And if you don’t want to do it that way, Dr. Lewis will also give you a call and talk to you personally.

Dr.  Lewis:                    That may be a blessing or a curse. You never know.

Janet Lewis:                 But, you will go to a Quest Lab location, local to where you live. Have it drawn. We do this across the United States. So, there’s no reason to not have a life worth living. We appreciate you listening to this weeks show, and we’ll be back here next time. You guys have a great week.